I must admit...

The speed with which these propaganda whores get their talking points circulated never ceases to amaze me.

NERZOG,

You should be impressed but not amazed.

I'm impressed with the technology that directly connects Karl Rove's keyboard to the FOX NEWS teleprompters.

UN building goes condo!

Fox News is really taking what Brown said personally. Gibby and O'Lielly weren't the only Fox talking heads to get in jabs at the UN on the behalf of Fox News and the Bush admin.

The morning stooges on "FOX and Friends" went to the trouble to have a NYC real estate agent in and discuss just how good it would be for NYC if the UN were gone. They proceeded to add up the dollars that the city would get if "somehow" the UN building went the way of high end condos. The segment came off really arrogant and had a weird threatening tone to it. Makes one wonder if Murdoch or Ailes is planning a little real estate coup over on the East River.

What happened to the times when

when statements such as this one, "referring to him, in turn, as a "pointy-headed, elitist liberal" and "a phony" had to be proven.

His head does not look pointy, and what is the proof that he is a elitist liberal. Who defines elitist liberal? What makes him a phony, in what context, etc etc............WHERE IS THE PROOF?

Proof?

We don't need no f---ing Proof!

More of Limbaugh Rape Fantasies.

What is it with this man and rape?

And then you've got the peacekeepers, so-called, the blue-helmeted guys over in Africa, raping everybody they can find in their peacekeeping role.

Google

In the Google search window, type in these words:

peacekeepers rape

There are 517,000 citations. Of course, not all are UN related, but you can subsearch if you want

google 'US military rapes'

24,300,000 references...

any other questions?

Yeah--What's your point?

ChasingMoksha seemed not to know what Limbaugh was referring to. I wrote how to find the answer.

If people are talking about misdeeds of the US military, you provide the way to obtain more info. Was that question asked?

Thank you

....I knew what he was talking about, however, I was questioning (or at least trying to imply) is obsession with it.

Thank you

....I knew what he was talking about, however, I was questioning (or at least trying to imply) his obsession with it.

Sorry about my misread of your post

The most I listen to of Limbaugh's program is a little over the lunch hour while running errands and getting lunch, so I do not really know how much time he spends on any topic.

I had thought that you were wondering "Where did he come up with this charge?"

Take care.

Most sites deal ...

with a major scanal of rapes and sex-trades in Congo (eg [link to www.iht.com] although there were also reports of it in Sierra Leone, Liberia and Haiti.

The US military has been accused of rapes in Japan, the Phillipins, Iraq, Vietnam, and within their own ranks.

Thus, rapes have been reported within the UN and US military, and measures that were promised sadly either have not been implemented, or did not lead to the desired outcomes.

I guess that rapes, assaults, robberies, and homocides happen by all military actions, although some countries are more involved in them (eg soldiers of African nations) than others (eg European and US).

Because the 'UN soldier' actually does not exists (its just soldiers from countries that are part of the UN, but are trained in their own country, and thus bring their own attitude and discipline into UN military/peacekeeping actions), it is hard to bring back those atrocities to the UN as such, even though the UN is in the end responsible for it.

Limbaugh responded by advising his listeners that Brown "is just another pointy-headed, elitist liberal saying you're a bunch of mind-numbed robots and you can't make up your own minds about things."

Sounds about right so far...

Agreed...

If you listen to the callers that Rush's screeners allow to get through, especially the women, "mind-numbed- robots" is a pretty good description. "Drooling Sycophant" is another phrase that comes to mind...

Aren't They Just Proving Brown's Point?

These reactions are particularly ironic since these same "pundits" used to cite UN Resolution 1441 to justify our attack and invasion of Iraq.

Yep...

Red State America's opinion of the UN is based upon what they hear from the Fox thugs and rightwing radio bobbleheads.

Ironically, it sure is nice to have the UN Security Council resolutions to fall back on when all your other reasons for war turn out to be complete baloney.

I love irony!

" to define the international organization for the "U.S. heartland" - Brown

And how does Limbaugh respond?

"It is an organization that seeks to fleece the American treasury. It's an organization that seeks to undermine U.S. foreign policy, blames us for the problems of the world."

In other words, Brown complains that Limbaugh and his ilk are defining the UN for the U.S. heartland, and Limbaugh responds by um.....defining the UN for his listeners.

Great retort, Rush. Perhaps you should request a higher credit line for that talent you have "on loan from God".

Well

Amerika IS the source for a lot of the problems facing the world! For Rush to deny that is whitewashing the many conscious foreign military and economic decisions the U.S> has made. The U.S. is the chief culprit responsible for global warming, exporting neoliberal trade agreements to the rest of the world which further divide the wealthy from the poor, and the destabilization of Iraq and the Middle East.

WAKE UP RUSH!!!!

Limbaugh the Hypocrite

---" [Sec. Brown] can't win in the arena of ideas, so he's got to go out and try to discredit the detractors."---

And then the hypocrite Limbaugh, who only moments before chastised Brown for "discrediting detractors", proceeds to discredit Brown by calling him a "pointy-headed elitist".

He didn't discredit Brown,

he attempted to discredit Brown.

And failed miserably.

Right.

--"[Limbaugh] attempted to discredit Brown"--

I agree, thanks. Only within the "minds" of the dittohead listeners was Brown discredited.

Message to the "heartland": It's okay to be alienated from the world.

The constant smearing of the UN tells the dittoheads that it is okay for the U.S. to ignore international co-operation, and that the UN, the most cohesive and powerful global council is not worth America's respect. It is precisely these sentiments that cause the world to resent U.S. double-standards. So the UN has faced scandals, well, the U.S. administration hasn't been squeaky clean either.

The irony amazes me how Rush can so easily whip out the elitist card.

"It is an organization that seeks to fleece the American treasury. "----our own gov't is doing that well enough on its own. Maybe the UN could recoup U.S. dues from China, our real treasury!

Rush's new phrase is 'Pointy-Headed'

Brilliant argument.

Rush uses the following points learned from his Debate Team days: 'pointy-headed, elitist liberal', 'pointy-headed intellectual elitist' and 'pointy-headed elitist'.

And then he follows up with 'phony', 'little rugrats', 'tinhorn dictators' and a bizarre reference to the bar scene from Star Wars.

Can 'poopyhead' be far behind?

What an intellectual midget.

What I find amusing...

Is that Rush and his parrots repeatedly accuse the Left of not having any logical arguments, of basing our decisions on emotiona....then he turns around and uses emotional buzzwords to whip his dimwitted audience into a frenzy.

Ehhhhhhhh?????

"LIMBAUGH: And that's what Malloch Brown is essentially saying: "We are above criticism. We don't like Mr. Rush Limbaugh, Fox News daring to attack our integrity and honor." Now, let me tell you something. Let me ask you people a question here. How many of you, and how many people on my staff, have sold young women into prostitution?"

Ehhhhhhhh?

BTW

what was Boltons reply, because despite his efforts, he has not come too far to transform the UN into an arm of the US.

To Repugs

the entire non-U.S. world is comprised of "elitist liberals," because the vast majority of the world's population has rejected key components of the Bush foreign agenda, such as the invasion of Iraq, Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo, global warming, and trade policy.

That term is attached to anyone who disagrees with right-wing politics.

An even scarier thought:

" . . . They proceeded to add up the dollars that the city would get if 'somehow' the UN building went the way of high end condos. The segment came off really arrogant and had a weird threatening tone to it. Makes one wonder if Murdoch or Ailes is planning a little real estate coup on the East River." - StevenSM -------------------------------------------------------------------------

. . . Or if Rummy, Cheney, and Rove are planning an "errant plane ride" timed just before the midterm elections . . .

As for Bush Limbo, when he says, "This is just another pointy-headed, elitist liberal saying you're a bunch of mind-numbed robots, and you can't make up your own minds about things", THEN proceeds to say, " . . . And I couldn't care less what this pointy-headed liberal elitist has to say 'cause he's just another in a long line of liberals who can't win in the arena of ideas, so he's got to go out and try to discredit the detractors . . .", isn't Rush doing the EXACT same thing?

Must be the oxycontin withdrawl talking . . .

Interesting use of the word 'elitist.'

Cons LOVE to accuse disenters to their positions as being elitist. They've managed to completely redefine the word to mean the OPPOSITE of what common meaning has always been. According to right wing squakers, you are an elitist if you:

Oppose tax cuts that favor the rich.

Favor legislation designed to aid America's poor.

Oppose corporate welfare.

Favor putting CEOs convicted of fraud in prison.

Favor affirmitive action to help the children of historically oppressed minorities get into college but oppose legasy exemptions that reserve addmissions for the children of wealth.

In other words: you are an elitist if you oppose the interests of the elite.

Propaganda tactics 101

I believe it was Goebbels who said that a good propagandist always accuses "the enemy" of that which his own side does or wishes to do. It's pretty common fare on the Rovian menu.