"little insensitivities"

Cue Vincent Vega: "That's one way to put it, yeah. Another way to put it would be 'racist garbage.' And yet another way to put it would be that you called for the horrible death of people you don't know personally, just for yuks on a radio program."

Myrmidons my legal white ass. 

Well I'd like to nip this Illegal Immigration problem in the bud too. But this is really way way over the top.

Me thinks Boortz is deliberately yanking MMFA's chain here.

Come on Neil [we all know you read this site], a little more class please!

I suggest you listen to Howie Carr [WRKO-680--Boston], you can hear it over the internet. He's about as enraged about the Illegal Immigration problem as anyone I've heard, and he can sometimes be a tad callous about it...BUT he makes a point. He doesn't just offer garbage.

Uh, yeah he does, Jeter. Howie Carr offers nothing BUTgarbage. He's what I call a Professional Prick- he just goes on the air for three hours a day and takes the position of unreasonably annoyed prick, and his drooling fans call in to thank him for "telling it like it is."

Case in point- last summer, Gov. Romney declared a pollution emergency because of the heat and smog indexes in Boston. Carr's response was to promise to leave his SUV idling in his driveway all night when he got home.  That's called being a Professional Prick- just being an asshole for the sake of being an asshole,  and of course his negative-IQ audience eats it up.

Boortz is a racist, lying pig.

'Nuff said.

he is a fool.

Now you just insulted fools.

I crap bigger'n him.

I'm afraid that boortz's commentary, and his show in general, is a perfect barometer of the juvenile stupidity of the right-wing hate radio audience.  Like it or not, they have to be dealt with.

I've got an idea, why don't we ship the waste to Boortz, and he can send it out to callers who call in, and double portions to the illegals who call in.  And he can stay in his little radio cubby until its all gone to make sure that it all gets gone.  In fact, we can give him a little taster's spoon like they get at Baskin Robbins, so he can eat some and make it go faster.

Now, for the Boortz factor.

All right, all you right-wing apologists, all you little right-wing bedwetters can go and troll up the thread now and call me a hypocrite and maybe go post this on your Little Green Footballs or what-not.  Take this home to your mommies and show them that you made someone cry after condemning me for saying it.  That's the RedRightHand notRadio show.

Oh, and to give myself total amnesty against all, it was a joke, and if you don't believe that I would apologize, but I never actually said it, except for the record on that Media Matters site that no one reads or visits. 

Let's take it a step further and stuff it right up that racist puckered @ss of his. There's certainly enough room up there.

Neal is afraid.

I don't care how you feel towardsimmigration, this is disgusting.

Disgusting, but ...

Just to play Devil's Advocate ... 

Is this a racist statement on its face, or simply a hateful statement.  I'm curious what people think.  Personally, I think it's an odious hateful statement, but not overtly racist because it's easily interchangable with any and every group that could be "sent home" to anyplace. 

Racist comment on it's own? No. When taken into context with a long list of craptastic statements is it racist? Maybe.

It would be dishonest of me to say "I don't get the impression that Boortz has some racist motivations". Given things he has said in the past, as a minority I wouldn't give him the benefit of the doubt. I do see what you are getting at though.

I think it becomes racist when he starts injecting "jokes" about tacos and tortillas into his hateful, murderous fantasies. By doing that, he's specifying his target with a cultural/racial signifier.

It's funny because in Mexico, Mexicans do not consider themselves a race.  Mexican culture and genetic background is very wide and there is no dominant race here.  Mexican is not a race it is a Nationality.  So when a Mexican hears this he is going to think that people in the United States hate the country of Mexico.  

I thought that I should add that there is the Indigenous *sp? population in the south of the country.  They are not the Mexicans that are moving to the states.    These people don't even speak spanish they still speak Mayan and other indigenous languages.  I guess these people could be considered a race.  That being said those populations in south mexico barely consider themselves part of the Mexican Republic.  

Yeah, I didn't mean to imply that "Mexican" was a race. And I know there's some debate about whether Latino should be considered a race or an ethnicity, so "racist" is probably the wrong word. Boortz is using cultural stereotypes to identify his targets by their ethnicity and/or nationality. So in that case, I guess Boortz is bigot and an ethnocentrist, but not technically a racist? Obviously that distinction doesn't really do him any favors.

Maybe YOU don't consider "Mexican" a race, but has it ever occurred to you to ask what the illegals, Mexicans, and their supporters here think about this? In particular, you and the rest of these self absorbed liberals here would do well to examine these materials: NCLR, Laraza, MEChA, sedition. more separatists.  the searches I used to get these links produced over 2.5 million hits.  Google just 'la raza'.  That alone gets nearly this number.

In case your Spanish is not good, La Raza means "The Race".   If it is not about race, then why do the Mexicans call it "The Race"?

I think it's your Spanish that's a little rusty. Yes, literally translated, la raza means the race, but in Spanish it's much closer to "the people." And "La Raza" as an organization doesn't just refer to Mexicans, so your point is off base any way you want to translate it. From the Wikipedia entry on La Raza:

"It is roughly analogous to the English-language terms "Hispanic" or "Latino", in that it attempts to identify a group of people with a common (Spanish-speaking) cultural heritage, despite the wide variations among those interesting cultures. The term "La Raza" may also encompass a racial significance associated with "mestizaje", or race-mixing (in the Americas not in Spain). In this sense, the term is inclusive of the Indigenous peoples of the Americas, the descendants of African peoples brought to Latin America as slaves, European immigrants, as well as the racial identities that comprise the Iberian peninsula — and all the mixtures among them."

that was an awesom reply.  After living here it has made me realize how huge and complicated the immigration problem is.  Mexico is a really big country and it is really really socially complicated.  It is so easy for people to sit in their easy middle class life in the states and pass judgement when they don't realize the deepness of the issues surrounding immigration.  

Wow, what an idiotic thing to say.  Saying that Mexicans consider themselves a "race" because there is an organization called La Raza is exactly like saying that American White People all hate Jews and Blacks because there are organizations  called the Ku Klux Klan and Aryan Nation.  Give me a break and put the broad brush away, please.

South American emmigration happens, in large part, because our subsidized agricultural exports kill true market competition and drives Mexican farmers from their native land. What would you do to feed your family? What distances would you travel?

Fight the real enemy. It isn’t the economic refugees that come here to labor. It’s market fundamentalists who perpetuate the dynamic that makes third world countries our economic slaves.

What would you do to feed your family?

Well, you might start by lobbying Congress to subsidize your farming...  =) 

I would love to see small family farmers get a hand up. It would serve the betterment of families and communities all over the country. Investments in small farms are investments in a better future.

Fresh, local produce is healthier and decreases greenhouse emissions involved in shipping. Thriving farmers markets boost local economies and connects people to the land, instilling a sense of community and stability.

This, of course, is the opposite of the vision that market fundamentalists have in mind for people.

Boortz, just like most of the other conservative talk show hosts that I hear on a daily basis (I like to listen to the opposition to see what they're saying, and aside from that, living in NC it's just about all I get aside from NPR) repeat themselves ad nauseum. Ad nauseum about illegal immigration. About "government" schools. About Iraq. And so on and so forth. Almost every single day at lunch I listen to part of Boortz's program, and for all I know, he could be re-playing his shows from 4 years ago, they sound exactly the same. I mean, come up with something new at least why don't you? Rush? Same thing. Wash, rinse, and repeat. Savage? Same again. Wash, rinse, repeat.

I'm seriously starting to wonder about the intelligence levels of folks who are fans of these guys and why they honestly just don't get stone cold bored listening to these bloviators talk about the same things day, after day, after day, after day...

At least you don't live in Georgia.....

"Georgia Association of Broadcasters [link to www.gab.org] title="blocked::[link to www.gab.org] color="#0052a3">awarded Boortz and his radio show the honors of 'Best Radio On-Air Personality' and "Best Radio Program, Any Type" in 2007."

 pretty pathetic.............must be some dim bulbs on those awards committees.

If you listen to his show,it's all about Boortz,where's he's been, where he's going ,his plane,how some crying baby upset him!Whining weekly about public education,or government schools are so bad,neglecting to tell you his education stopped in the 12th grade,after flunking out of college !

He's a 62 year-old over-the-hill, has-been, that never was anything in the first place, but a loud mouth racist! But he's a well rounded as#-kisser,properly versed in the art of Kissing As#! 

Anytime he's talking,you'd better verify what he's saying, before you repeat it.Boortz is proud that he lies,but when he gets caught or is outed,he leaves it up to his minions that surround him, to take care of his lies! How would you like to be one of Boortzs' gophers,one that gaze upon him with goo-goo eyes,then rush out  to  clean up his messes/lies? I wonder if he pays them, just minimum wages? Boy that would be a terrible job to have running around wiping up after Boortz!

I'm still trying to figure out why Boortz dresses like Sonny from Miami Vice. The eighties must have been good for him.

Love your work, Lynn. Har!

Boortz has made a career of saying provocative things that are easy to construe as racist. I don't know what's in his heart, so I can't say that he's truly a racist in, let's say, the David Duke mold. He does, however, more harm than any possible good when he clouds the immigration issue with hyperbole and cheap shots about those of hispanic heritage. Some posters on this site espouse the incorrect belief that all those opposed to ILLEGAL immigration are actually bigots disguising themselves as people who are actually interested in the welfare of our nation. For example, Mossydog 8536 wrote from a thread on Monday dealing with the immigration issue, "Personally I'm sick of you angry little white boys who spend day and night worrying about mexicans and gays...". Spintronic added this comment, "Personally I think a lot of the people screaming about the immigration situation are hiding behind the law to justify their bigoted atitudes." While there is no doubt some people of which this may be true, many posters here shout "racist" rahter quickly if someone disagrees with illegal immigration debacle. On Wednesday, 7/20/07, I watched a television interview with Chief Robert Gilbert of the Border Patrol. Chief Gilbert, in charge of the Tuscon sector of the border was commenting on how smugglers(both human and drug), were starting forest fires in the Huachuca Mtns. The purpose of these fires was to distract the Border Patrol from doing their duty because of the increased pressure recently exerted by the Border Patrol to close the border. Chief Gilbert further commented that, in the Tuscon sector,the Border Patrol so far this year has made 290,000 arrests and SEIZED 690,000 POUNDS of MARIJUANA. For those interested in the math, that's 345 TONS of POT. Finally, Chief Gilbert concluded with this statement regarding the use of forest fires as a diversionary tactic, "It shows the desperation of the smuggler, how callous they are, they really don't care, as long as they get their illegal contraband into the United States." In summing up, those posters who still maintain it's just "white boys" being xenophobic when they oppose illegal immigration, stick that in your proverbial pipe and toke it!

"I don't know what's in his heart, so I can't say that he's truly a racist in, let's say, the David Duke mold."

By that measure, we might as well reserve the word "racist" for those who don a white hood and burn crosses on their neighbor's lawn. I don't think it's pulling the trigger too quickly to hold someone accountable for their own words. While this particular statement may not technically be racist, Boortz has given ample evidence in the past as to what's "in his heart." I'm reminded of Dave Chappelle's reaction to all those people who questioned whether or not Michael Richards' was really racist: "He yelled out n****r in a room full of people! What, does he have to lynch Medgar Evers before we can call him a racist?!"

Clams, I'll agree that Boortz may be racist, but how much of what he says is designed to "stir the pot" I'm not sure. What of the poster's comment regarding "you angry little white boys"? No racial overtones there, huh? Part of the larger point I was making deals with the fact that several posters here are quick to shout xenophobia if their arguments are weak. Agree or disagree?

"Clams, I'll agree that Boortz may be racist, but how much of what he says is designed to "stir the pot" I'm not sure."

That's a bit like saying, "I'm not a racist, I just play one on the radio. I don't think that there's a distinction to make there.

"What of the poster's comment regarding "you angry little white boys"? No racial overtones there, huh? Part of the larger point I was making deals with the fact that several posters here are quick to shout xenophobia if their arguments are weak. Agree or disagree?"

I agree that it happens. Of course it does. I didn't read the thread that you're referring to specifically, so I can't comment on those posts in particular. But in general, I don't think I've seen it too much on this site, but I've noticed it in real life discussions I've had on the topic of illegal immigration. The ignorant and uninformed reside on both sides of ideological fence. My only point was that Boortz repeats this same crap daily, so he doesn't get the benefit of the doubt in that department. He doesn't get to be excused on the basis of being ignorant and uninformed. He may well be, but he's past the point where he can use that as an excuse for his bigotry. I think xenophobia clearly plays a big part in his position on illegal immigration, and he intentionally plays that card for his audience.

I think the racial side of this is getting a good workout. The part that concerns me is the givem a little nuclear waste to take back with them part. Is this some lame smoke dream to remove the problem of nuclear waste by making it the problem of people we don't like? There are short term and long term risks from the materials. Not all of them of a radiological aspect. Plutonium does not kill in this situation by radiation, but by being extremly poisonous. The risks from various radiological isotopes is not light reading. The risk sent south can easily head back north by materials inadvertently contaminated.

So this pleasent little pipe dream is extremly stupid, dangerous, and deranged. 

A little off topic but on his Thursday show, Mr. Boortz commened about a home invasion/killing in Atlanta. He said that he would bet $5 to a doughnut hole that the perps were illegals. He didn't have info on this crime but threw out the Illegal card.

I don't know the final outcome of who did it, but if they weren't illegals as he declared, he owes me $5....and I will tell everyone I know to write him demanding he fulfill his bet/contract. If 10,000 people call him on it, he'll blame it on Soros.  He better hope that the 12-20 million "illegals" don't ask for their winnings.

The following site;  portland.indiamedia.org/en/2002/12/38175.shtml    will show you the blueprints/diagrams from which Boortz, and any other TV or Radio blabbermouth use in their daily tirades. Take a minute or two and read it. These are the Talking Points that the Myrmidons, like Boortz use daily!

If you take notice that Boortz, Hannity, Rush are all only high school graduates, with limited intelligence, no common sense and sense of entitlement, and only have limited talking points! Their shows from week to week are the same ! Same old bogeymen, same old diatribes, nothing is right in their world, but they believe they've been chosen (by whom, I don't know) to lead us, the "Little People", back home to be protected by only them!

Boortz spends a large percentage of his show talking about himself. If Boortz didn't continually pat himself on the back, or give himself 50 or so attaboys a show, he's had a bad day! He's just a common everyday jerk!

He's the type you see hanging around outside the washrooms at a football game, not meaning any harm. He doesn't fit in with the 80,000 or so others at the game, so there he stands outside, trying to look important! In his small, little world he's hoping someone will greet him, but everyone that passes him by, has more important things to do, like take a dump,or wiz!

First off, your link doesn't work "CPL", secondly, this is hillarious.  Boortz did this on purpose and mmfa did exactly what he thought they would, I love it.  BTW, "CPL" what's with the football game analogy?  If Boortz can't fit in then why does he have a nationally sydicated show?  If no one agreed with him would his comments be fodder for mmfa?

Is there a point to that useless rant? IF in some bizarre way there is supposed to be what could it possibly be except maybe in some crackpipe inspired delusion that the only possible motive for racist ignorance by Boortz is to pull MMFA's chain and even if that were true that would mean for some unfathomable reason that its a reason for MMFA not to COVER the racist moronity of the comment? If he robbed a liquor store just to prove a point would that mean the police shouldnt arrest him? You guys are so weak sometimes it simply embarassing

SS,

 Try this; portland.indymedia.org/en/2002/12/38175.shtml     Indymedia was misspelled, my mistake.

Go take a look at his list of radio stations that's he's on, nearly 50% or more aren't live,or on after the live show, but replays!

 He's a show-pig,he know's how to push someones bell,big deal! Try pushing him back,ask him a direct question that differs from his view ,he'll cut you off, or start whining like a little baby in poopy pampers, The same with Hannity and O'lielly,they can spew it out,but their also not big enough or man, to take  criticism. Rush on the other  rarely has live listeners on air.

Boortz on the other hand,just likes to hear his own voice,as proven daily on his talkfest!

Still not working try right clicking and activating the link.  And about the "replaying" thing, I actually work for a staion that replays boortz.....we do it becasue we have local shows in primetime it's not some "conspiracy" to keep neal from answering calls.  I will agree that many hosts cut off libs but the reason for this is usually the attitude of the caller more than the content of what they say.  It's not just political shows that cut off callers, I've had to drop callers from financial, car repair, home shows, etc.

SS,

Try this: http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2002/12/38175.shtml  

Thanks for the site!  Now let's see how many apply to mmfa and some of you lib bloggers!

 *  2.  Become incredulous and indignant. Avoid discussing key issues and instead focus on side issues which can be used show the topic as being critical of some otherwise sacrosanct group or theme. This is also known as the "How dare you!" gambit. *  3.  Create rumor mongers. Avoid discussing issues by describing all charges, regardless of venue or evidence, as mere rumors and wild accusations. Other derogatory terms mutually exclusive of truth may work as well. This method works especially well with a silent press, because the only way the public can learn of the facts are through such "arguable rumors". If you can associate the material with the Internet, use this fact to certify it a "wild rumor" which can have no basis in fact. (Bushlied I'm talking to you)*  4.  Use a straw man. Find or create a seeming element of your opponent's argument which you can easily knock down to make yourself look good and the opponent to look bad. Either make up an issue you may safely imply exists based on your interpretation of the opponent/opponent arguments/situation, or select the weakest aspect of the weakest charges. Amplify their significance and destroy them in a way which appears to debunk all the charges, real and fabricated alike, while actually avoiding discussion of the real issues. (Let's see, Inhofe says on thing Clinton and boxer deny it, neither can be proven, let's use it!)*  5.  Sidetrack opponents with name calling and ridicule. This is also known as the primary attack the messenger ploy, though other methods qualify as variants of that approach. Associate opponents with unpopular titles such as "kooks", "right-wing", "liberal", "left-wing", "terrorists", "conspiracy buffs", "radicals", "militia", "racists", "religious fanatics", "sexual deviates", and so forth. This makes others shrink from support out of fear of gaining the same label, and you avoid dealing with issues. (Ah, let me count how many times I've been called troll, racist, nazi, warmonger, etc.)*  10.   Associate opponent charges with old news. A derivative of the straw man usually, in any large-scale matter of high visibility, someone will make charges early on which can be or were already easily dealt with. Where it can be foreseen, have your own side raise a straw man issue and have it dealt with early on as part of the initial contingency plans. Subsequent charges, regardless of validity or new ground uncovered, can usually them be associated with the original charge and dismissed as simply being a rehash without need to address current issues -- so much the better where the opponent is or was involved with the original source. (Kinda reminds me of the recent mmfa threads about "old news" about hillary in the newest book)

i know one thing that can be "proven" about what inhofe said about clinton and boxer.  he initially claimed it was "the other day", then later said it was "three years ago".   i don't think anyone could see that as anything but an attempt to mislead.  "the other day" clear implies something within the last few weeks.

Has anyone ever tried reaching Boortz on his show,I was on a speaker phone on hold for 73 minutes then I hung up!

It's a national show, the show I'm working on now is 3 hrs long on a friday and is only in 5 cities and gets over 300 callers ever saturday.  The reason you didn't get on was because of the bulk of callers. 

Well, gotta go, keep up the good fight!

S Shaw

SS,

Why did you leave out of your blog paragraphs 1,6-9,and 11-20 ?                                                                                                        

Maybe he actually has a stoopidity threshold.

While I've seen enough of SS's posts that I just skim them, I did like his criticism re: the Inhofe/Clinton/Boxer overheard conversation thread;

Reporter on supposed "news" show bases segment on obviously fictional overheard conversation- MMFA reports on inconsistencies in the eavesdroppers story- SShaw calls MMFA irresponsible for reporting this, as they can't verify what actually happened as far as the original incident.

And this was one of the few on the list he actually tried to back up with an example.

Neil is right on--except for the fact that these morons will invade again and end up contaminating America's food supply.

 The solution is to place 100,000 troops at the border with ORDERS to shoot to kill any idiot trying to invade across our borders. 

 Have the U.S. military stuff a few hundred body bags with dead illegals and ship them to Felipe Calderon COD. About two such shipments will convince our third world cesspool neighbors to keep their garbage on their side of the border.

In addition, the morons here already will start to get the message: The U.S. does not want every damn illiterate peasant from Mexico in our nation.

Again, a few hundred body bags will cause the criminals here to self-deport. Let them take GW with them!~

Wow a real renaissance man a bigot AND a moron. Take your racist garbage and deposit it where the Sun never shines. No wonder you like BOOOOORE

Paulrspeaker9759,

 How and why, would they want to contaminate the food supply? Please answer that question,if you can?

 You call the illegals "morons",they're a whole lot smarter than you are! At least in their case, they want to better themselves and their families, unlike you ! You and Boortz are like two peas in a pod,both dumb-as# racists! 

Paul what bridge or doorway do you live under, or in? You would fit right in with Hannity,Boortz,Savage Coulter and on and on!

!

I think Paulrspeaker is one of the muttonheads that calls in to Sean Hannity's show and tells him what a great thinker he is.

Because paulrspeaker, & paulrtyper, but paulrnotthinker.

It is now Sunday...Boortz now owes me $5.50

Great strategy, were it not that surreal, unreasonable, even evil. First of all, Americans aren't thinking if they feel they can prohibit anyone from entering "their" country. Newsflash, the only non-immigrants in America are Native Americans, all the rest are immigrants, mostly European, partly African, partly other. There are no patriots, there is no homeland. How about you read a book or two and get some real knowledge....