It's not the name you arsehats. It's the WAY the NAME is being used. Like a bludgeoning tool and all, but you all know that anyway.

If we're going to use Obama's full name, then use everyone else's full name, like Cunningham "says" that he does. Funny, in Cunningham's little warm up thing, he didn't mention John McCain's middle name not once, and funnily enough, he says that he uses EVERYONE'S full name.

Doocy, Carlson, and Kilmeade, Fox puppets no doubt.

Yeah, the whole "playing dumb" thing would be a laugher if it wasn't working on a few people.As another poster pointed out, it's probably not going to make a difference to anybody but the most slack-jawed Americans as far as likely Obama-voters, but it may fire up some of the X-treme Christians.

I guess if they're resorting to these things, it's pretty obvious they don't have a lot of faith in John McCain. You know, the guy who was engaged in bondage related activities with communists in the swinging 60s?

What? It's true, isn't it? What's the problem?

I love the "potentially."

Yeah, I want to know what the phrase 'potential Muslim' even mean? A guy named Cat Stevens became a Muslim. Was it his potential?

Right?!  I too thought "potentially" was wonderfully weaselly.  And it made me think  - since we have freedom of religion and all in this country, doesn't that make us all potential Muslims?  Oh no!

Add this tool to the list. Imagine all the problems that could have been solved if the republicans spent as much time as they do fixating on Obama's middle name.

I cannot in good conceince vote for a person who's name  which reminds me of 911 tragedy. No matter how you  try and  twist it it does invoke terrible memories.  The fact that most Muslim's probably are decent people. Doesn't sway my nervousness of having a president who is Muslim. 

Why does the name Hussein remind you of the 9/11 tragedy? You see, unlike what the Bush administration would have you believe, a man named Hussein had nothing to do with it.

Barack's last name is Obama, not, Osama. If his last name reminds you of a certain tall terrorist hiding out in Pakistan somewhere, maybe it's better that you hide under your bed instead of coming out to vote in November. The terrorists might get you if you come out from hiding. Make sure the duct tape and plastic sheeting is tight by the way.

Oh, and Barack Obama, is NOT a Muslim, and even if he were, what would it matter?

I keep thinking of things to say to you, since your comments were really ignorant and all.

The worst act of terrorism committed on American soil before 9/11 was done by a Christian, Timothy McVeigh. You remember him right? So by your assertion, you shouldn't vote for a Christian either because of the possible connection to terroristic activities and all.

Really? Because I couldn't, in good conscience, vote for someone who's middle name was "Walker."  Just reminded me too much of the American Taliban, John Walker Lindh.

Do you see how absurd that is?  Of course, if you think Saddam Hussein had ties to 9/11, I've got some Enron stock to sell you...

Did you really accuse US of twisting things then offhandedly toss out the dumb claim that Obama is a Muslim? Does it bother you that you obviously have no clue as to what is going on?

That is the stupidest thing I've ever heard.  You can vote for for whomever you like, but you should have valid, or at least explicable reasons fro doing so, or not doing so.  What YOU have for a "reason" is superfluous, irrational nonsense without a shred of validity. 

Let me guess - you proabably still buy into the nonsense that Guiliani did a good job as mayor before/during 9-11 and that George W. "united the country after 9-11." 

You are an idiot! He's not a Muslim, although I wouldn't mind because God knows the fake Christians we've suffered through in the White House have totally blown it.

 

And making a connection between Saddam Hussein and what happened on 9/11 makes you an accomplice to murder, as far as I'm concerned.

You are an idiot! He's not a Muslim, although I wouldn't mind because God knows the fake Christians we've suffered through in the White House have totally blown it.

 

And making a connection between Saddam Hussein and what happened on 9/11 makes you an accomplice to murder, as far as I'm concerned.

Kilmeade:"He talked about how Barack Obama's foreign policy is going to be getting all our enemies and terrorists together and singing Kumbaya together, but he kept bringing up that name, Senator Barack Hussein Obama. And a lot of people didn't like the connotation."

Kilmeade sees nothing wrong with this depiction of Obama's foreign policy but the middle name, "people didn't like".  Wow, what standards those Republican's have.  They go like this, Democrats are terrorists appeasers and co-conspirators but at least they have American names.  When the accusation gets into literal name calling, that is when the hands go up; ENOUGH. 

 

And yet, the Repubs gleefully shove under the rug the fact that Bush was in business with the Bin Laden family and has a long-time love affair with the leaders of the country Osama's from.  I think that's a little more serious than sharing a name.

I’m sure glad this middle name flap is being ironed out in February. If his opponents had waited ‘til October before trying to make an issue of Obama’s middle name they would have had a much greater chance of hooking the  fishes. If there is one undecided voter left in America by November 4th who hasn’t yet heard about and reasoned the lunacy in all this – they belong in a loony bin, not a voting booth.

I really don't think the name thing is going to play...except to those who would never vote for Obama anyway.  That is not to say I don't think we should critisze and call out when they do it.  But I really think we should not get angry just ridicule them for their idocy.  I just don't get worked up about it because I think it really is a dud of an issue.  I watched part of Cunninghams tirade and if you look at the faces of the people in the front everytime he did the name thing they really were not reacting I would say even some of them looked to be turned off by it.  Even the Evil One (Karl Rove) (-; says it is a dud and it will back fire on 'em.  I say let 'em keep pounding this nonsense and hold them up to the scorn and ridicule they deserve.  Much of MCCains support comes from the middle and more moderate--this will not play well.  They are really only hurting their own candidate with this one.

I’m not saying this just to bash Republicans – but their “base” has a strange “sense of humor”. This is a  logical observation of facts based on actions. They seem like some kind of unteathered children’s organization – like the reality TV Show “Kid Nation”. As hard as they try to act like adults, they can’t keep away from 4th grade humor and 1st grade name-calling. They truly are the party for the ignorant, insecure, and immature and they KNOW what games to play to draw those sort of people into their fantasy – a fantasy that leads to a black hole of nothingness.

Hey Gretchen, next time you're buying toilet paper, see if you can get multiple enlarged copies of Article VI, Section 3.  Be sure to send Michael Savage some as a gift.

How about floating this:

Only Nixon could go to China.

A President named Lyndon Baines Johnson could not bring peace to the Middle East.

Nor could a President named Gerald Rudolph Ford.

Nor could a President named James Earl Carter Jr.

Nor could a President named Ronald Wilson Reagan.

Nor could a President named George Herbert Walker Bush.

Nor could a President named William Jefferson Clinton.

Nor could a President named George Walker Bush.

Might it be possible, though, that a President named Barack Hussein Obama might get their attention?

I wonder if Miss America Gretchen (I can only imagine what her middle name is) Carlson is potentially corresponding with any neo-Nazi friends or family back in her motherland of Sweden? Her comments have me wondering.

Her middle name would be Helga. And I loved her nickname - goalpost gretchen!

http://www.amiannoying.com/(S(gxl4ho55fzo0eqft2ikw4c45))/view.aspx?id=21171&collection=3985

I'm looking forward to having in depth discussions about willard romney or sidney mccain!

John Sidney McCain ... the THIRD!

I'm not saying he's associated with any Reich movements of past years, I'm just saying that he's a THIRD, (which shows a pattern throughout his family's history) and that's a mighty suspicious coincidence.

John Sidney McCain III – Now that’s classic!

Every Democrat in America should start using his full name. It shows more than a pattern – it oozes with thoughts of entitlement and privilege.

I’m sure this is one of the things on McCain’s mind when he denounces Obama “name games”. I say lets’ give them a taste of their own medicine and see how he likes it!

Plus, I read on the internets that there's a doctor who's a child rapist who's also named Sidney. I'm just sayin'.

And potentially(like if  she ever should become trapped under a log) she might have to amputate her own leg with a pocket knife. I mean I'm just sayin'...

I was surprised to see Kilmeade analyzing somebody else’s name this way since I thought he himself was not even using his own given name.  Then I tried to verify this on the net and had no luck.  I finally remembered where I’d seen it, in Al Franken’s book “Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them”, chapter 26.  Maybe Franken was making a point by lying himself; to let the Fox people get a taste of their own medicine because “Leslie Hochswenderson” does sound over the top.  But if true, Kilmeade should have found a way of avoiding the subject.

According to THIS website

http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/Brian-Kilmeade

and this one

http://brian.kilmeade.en.shellph2.info/

That is indeed the name he was born with.

I did find those and a couple mentions in comment sections of message boards but the one you site has no mention of the name and the other seems non-authoratative.   If true it makes him look pretty plastic .... a rose by any other name....

The first one seems to be about FOX I gave the wrong url it should be

http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/Fox-News

If you go to his name and put your curser on it you get it saying that was his birth name. Maybe not authoritative but it does seem to be about FOX not him and I dont know why they would get it wrong.

I like the Daily Show appelation for this b00b:

 "The Brown-Haired Guy Who's Not Steve Doocy"

Amazing, they actually feel they need to justify it on the air. That's guilt if ever I saw it!

As I said before..Gretchen just needs her skirts a little shorter . Then there will be no need for her to say anything.

Media Matters fails to note that Obama's religious past is gray and it is not certain he was always Christian nor does it guarantee he will be Christian next week.  His current religion is cozy with the Nation of Islam.

Let us hope Mr. Obama does not become a Muslim. If he were to decide to change back to Christianity, in many parts of the Islamic world he would suffer the sentence of death.

 

 

Actually, Leather, there is no guarantee that anybody in the world will be the same religion next week as they are now. And all we have to go on regarding their current beliefs is what they tell us themselves.We are all in imminent danger of death (in certain parts of the world).

Hope you have the plastic sheets on tonight.

how rich! I'm sure you have all sorts of links to back up that gray past claim, right? You christian rightists are nothing but phony christians. You'd be the ones who would crucify jesus if given a 2nd chance.

WTF?? You're not sure of his religion, but if he's a Christian and then becomes a Muslim then switches back to Christian, he could be eligible for death sentence under Muslim law? My God, don't you have anything sensible to think about?

Think? Parrots don't think, they simply mimic repeated words. Now you want them to use logic? That would be like millions of years of evolution in the blink of an eye.

Your point should be the only counterpunch needed to quiet the parrots - but I doubt any of them hear it often enough to make it part of their "vocabulary".

I would like somebody to explain why someone's religion disqualifies them from the presidency in a country where all religions are respected equally.

If you want a gaurantee buy an refrigerator. What a ridiculous thing to say.

Is this all they got?  His middle name.  Gee, I was wondering why they kept saying it over and over and over and over and over and over again?  I thought they said it because they like him.  Thanks for explaining it, genius.  If you enjoy Fox and Friends, you might be an idiot.

Media Matters fails to note that Obama's religious past is gray ...

You're kidding, right? I could give a rat's you-know-what about whether someone was this religion or that religion...Personally, I'm a big fan of the Flying Spaghetti Monster. What I do care about is the fact that The Constitution unequivocally states there shall be no RELIGIOUS TEST!

And, do you think the knobs at FAUX news will make mention of the fact that Senator McCain was not born in this country? Which is a requirement to be President me thinks!

Cowhide Melon, 

When it comes to religion, Obama has the Constitution on his side. 

Sucks, doesn't it?  Scream and howl all you want, he has no legal obligation to explain his religion to you or anyone.  The voters shall collectively decide how important it is.

Should I? Oh, yes I should!

Carlson is potentially a journalist--but she's not.

Barack's had not had contact with his father for 10 years before he died in a car accident years ago.  Barack has always been a Christian and even if he was a Muslim, so what.  This is about racism, this is about hate for muslims and blacks.  This is all you got.  Fox, Doocy, Carlson, ect.  pathetic and sad.

JULIET:
      'Tis but thy name that is my enemy;
      Thou art thyself, though not a Montague.
      What's Montague? it is nor hand, nor foot,
      Nor arm, nor face, nor any other part
      Belonging to a man. O, be some other name!
      What's in a name? that which we call a rose
      By any other name would smell as sweet;
      So Romeo would, were he not Romeo call'd,
      Retain that dear perfection which he owes
      Without that title. Romeo, doff thy name,
      And for that name which is no part of thee
      Take all myself.---Romeo and Juliet, 1594

Wow, that was great. Love Wild Bill

Glad you were all able to jump to Barack's defense.  My question is how many of you actually watched the segment?  You wondered why they were discussing it  - well it was because McCain applogized to Barack - that means it is NEWS!!!  Not that we see that happen from the other side when they are wrong.

Plus - Steve Doocy did mention Barack was a Christian right after Gretchen said rumor, better transcripts are a must.  Let me state this for the record - just so we are crystal clear...I am a conservative an x-treme Christian (just to quote) an someone who doesn't like to see ANYONE from either party taken to task for something that isn't their fault.

Maybe if EVERYONE grew up - this country would be in a better state than it is.

Maybe you should be chastising Fox News and Friends instead of us then, since they are the ones who said these things.

"Plus - Steve Doocy did mention Barack was a Christian right after Gretchen said rumor, better transcripts are a must.  Let me state this for the record - just so we are crystal clear...I am a conservative an x-treme Christian (just to quote) an someone who doesn't like to see ANYONE from either party taken to task for something that isn't their fault."

Really? Cuz I watched the segment, and you are flat out wrong.  The word "Christian" was never uttered.   

And what's an "x-treme Christian"?  Do you study the Bible while rock climbing?  Hold services while you're base-jumping?  Take your communion with Mountain Dew?

I wouldn't be so quick to use "x-treme Christian."  To me, that reminds me of Eric Rudolph and Timothy McVeigh. 

I used that term x-treme Christian because that is what someone used earlier on as a degrogatory comment.  Yes Steve did mention Obama was Christian - it might not have been dwelt upon, but he did say it.  However mistated when he said it, so that is my fault.

Believe it or not, as I was driving into work this morning, I was listening to a local morning drivetime radio show. They were talking about the Bill Cunningham thing, and someone calls in. Local person. They start on about how Obama is really a Muslim, he's NO Christian they loudly proclaim. And this caller has it on good authority that Obama is planning on changing over the entire US over to Sharia law AS SOON AS HE GETS ELECTED (they were yelling, and hence my use of all caps there). Never you mind that pesky little thing called the Constitution that would get in the way of that, along with Congress, and the Judicial system, yep, this guy, definitely convinced, since he received an e-mail from a friend of a friend inside of the Obama campaign, this is definitely what Obama is planning on doing as soon as he's elected.

In respect to the 2 hosts on the morning show, they quickly disassembled this guy's whole line of thought, and completely and utterly destroyed him on the air, and pointed out that Obama, even if he wanted to do this, really couldn't do it on his own, since the executive branch, you know, doesn't actually make the laws. And then this guy went on about how Obama was raised in a "radical" madrassa (that old carrot again), and how he was wearing "Muslim" clothes when he was in Africa, and so on and so forth. I hate to say it, but there are folks that believe this drivel. And then this guy really got down to the MEAT of the problem for him. Obama is "half black", and in good conscience, he cannot vote for a half black man who is - all of these other things as well. Which of course, completely and utterly makes it painfully obvious that the caller was simply a racist, and doesn't want to vote for a black man. I mean, if he had come out and said that, it would have been a lot more honest than propping up all of these other BS arguments that he spewed forth.

Hey Mag, I think that's really what most of it boils down to. I live among many Republicans, and have been having a lot of fun with the conversations at work and in social situations that begin with the very concerned "I don't think America's ready for a Muslim president".

After a little Googling, or whatever it takes to get them up to speed on basic facts, I ask them who they know personally that says they will refuse to vote for Obama based entirely on something they're wrong about.

Nobody yet has come up with a name. They just get a very troubled look on their faces as they think about those imaginary surrogates for themselves who are scared sh*tless of things they can't even explain to themselves.

Hey, given Carlson's logic "...Barack Obama is a Muslim potentially", we all are potentially something.

Using Gretchen Carlson's "logic", there was a character on "WKRP in Cincinnatti" named Arthur Carlson - "The Big Guy" - who was a bumbling idiot.  So the connotation is that since she has the same last name as Arthur Carlson, then Gretchen Carlson mush be a bumbling idiot - potentially.....

And she is.

I can top that.  In 2005 a man named Bradley John Murdoch was convicted of murder in Australia.  Rupert Murdoch, the chairman of FOX, is from Australia.

There's someone who has double potential to become a killer.  We should keep an eye on that deviant. 

I can top that.  In 2005 a man named Bradley John Murdoch was convicted of murder in Australia.  Rupert Murdoch, the chairman of FOX, is from Australia.

There's someone who has double potential to become a killer.  We should keep an eye on that deviant. 

And somewhere in the world, there must be a murderer or rapist named John, so John McCain needs to be watched - right???  :-)

Well, for starters there's JOHN Wilkes Booth, and JOHN Hinckley and JOHN Wayne Gacy.  That's all I could think of in about 5 seconds.

When you no longer can defend the indefensible.  When your political party is utterly corrupt, incompetent, and without principle.  When you have nothing to offer the American citizenry but fear and hatred.  When your domestic policies have been proven disastrous.  When your foreign policies make enemies of friends and friends of enemies.  When you and your followers have forgotten compassion, justice, and reason.  When you wage war only for profit, for political gain, and for imperial designs. When your religion no longer offers comfort, tolerance, and understanding.  When you are bereft of ideas but filled with greed and arrogance...

When your political ideology has been emptied of all meaning, when you have no substance whatsoever, then surface is everything.  Surface.  Artifice.  Thus, if you cannot attack a man for his principles, for his ideology, you are left only to attack him for the name he was given by his parents.  What's in a name?  What does "neo-conservative" mean today?

The one genius the right has is marketing. IT as been about the sizzle instead of the steak for a long time for them.

IT as been about the sizzle instead of the steak for a long time for them.

Which is par for the course, seeing as the neo-cons are led by a "man" who's all hat and no cattle - George W. Bush.

Barack Mohammed Hussein Obama.   A name ( to my idea)  that would not fit the tradition of America and it's past presidents.   Washington,  Adams , Jackson,  etc.   Not to mention the implications of the Mohammed part.   I do not consider myself a racist,  but I am really surprised by the nievity of the black voters.   Not to mention the financial implications associated with this candidate.    Yeah ,  sure ,  he'll get us out of Iraq.  And if he would;  at what cost?  At this time I feel that our government intends to stay in Iraq until it is politically advisable to leave.  Not to mention the profits being reaped by big business.  There's alot of things here that old Obama wouldn't be able to control.    As to McCain?   Well there's an old saying:   Better the devil you do know....  Not to mention :   Who the hell is Obama ____ anyway?!

Sagebrush....I cannot vote for someone who's name is associated with 9/11...

Hey pinhead, where does the name Hussein come into play with 9/11....(watch it Sagebush!!!, don't even go with, "well, I'm sure one of the terrorists name was Hussein" or Saddam's last name)....one has nothing to do with the other idiot.

.....so then you are equally FREAKED OUT if someone's name is Timothy (McVeigh) or maybe Adolph (nuf said).

People will use the simpliest excuse to justify their thoughts. And to think our representatives are elected form this kind of gene pool.