There is no comparison whatsoever between McCain's endorsement and Wright.  None!!!

Wright was on Obama's staff.  He was his spiritual advisor.  He will have easy access to the White House.  He baptized his children and married him.

Barack knew Wright for 20 years and attended his church.

Reverend Wright said we deserved 9/11, America gave blacks AIDS, he asked God to Damn America, he used the phrase Uncle Tom, he made pelvic thrusts in his sermons to describe how the people were f*&^ed by Bill Clinton.  He visited Kadafi, and is a Black separatist among other terrible things.  He said that Hamas' declaration which has a overt statement to destroy Jews around the world is equivalent to the declaration of independence.

Nevertheless, Obama compared this man to his Grandmother.

MMFA and the liberals on MSNBC are so bad at making comparisons they have lost all credibility.

I hate to double post but here you go Cope

 

I waited until I was blue in the face.  I held it in as long as I could.

            Reverend Jeremiah Wright said a few unpopular things, he said “God damn America,” a “country ruled by rich white people,” and that “we’ve nuked more than died in New York.”  His words have been called racist and unpatriotic, and I’ve been silently watching the media repeat the who, endlessly loop the what, sketchily detail the when, positively harp on the where and still no one is talking about the why.  There are many important whys in this story, the most important of which being why did Wright say what he said and why is the media painting so narrow a portrait of it?

            Wright was born in 1941. 

            To put that in perspective, the first black Major League baseball player didn’t take the field for another six years, Jackie Robinson, ending roughly eighty years of segregation in the sport.  Jim Crow laws, that allowed separate but equal treatment of black citizens after the thirteenth amendment abolished slavery, were enforced for another twenty four years of this mans life.  He drank from separate faucets and ate at separate tables.  His experience in America was a little different than that of his loudest critics; Wright grew up in a time many only hear about in history books, a time Americans are rightfully not proud of. 

            The retired Reverend, now in his late sixties, is witnessing the first black candidate for President of the United States with the potential of winning the general election.                        A United States citizen with First Amendment rights to freedom of speech is being told to watch his mouth by the main stream media.  In true McCarthy fashion Wright is being labeled anti-American.              White people have enjoyed a racial benefit in American society, the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki did kill at least one hundred and ninety seven thousand more people than died in New York, he may be putting things bluntly but his basic facts are right.  Even if they were not, in America he still has ever right to shout it on the mountain, its part of what makes our country great.            Where was the media when Jerry Falwell on The 700 Club declared, "I really believe that the pagans, and the abortionists, and the feminists, and the gays and the lesbians who are actively trying to make that an alternative lifestyle, the ACLU, People For the American Way, all of them who have tried to secularize America. I point the finger in their face and say 'you helped this happen”???            How about Pat Robertson when he said “…you're supposed to be nice to the Episcopalians and the Presbyterians and the Methodists and this, that, and the other thing. Nonsense. I don't have to be nice to the spirit of the Anti-Christ.”???                             And McCain supporter Minister John Hagee, an endorser that the media seems reluctant to discuss.  On Katrina the minister had this to say, "All hurricanes are acts of God because God controls the heavens. I believe that New Orleans had a level of sin that was offensive to God and they were recipients of the judgment of God for that."            Why was it alright for all those right wing preachers to say all that?  A double standard?              I was born in 1977.  I hope that when I’m in my late sixties I can look back at all this and laugh about how primitive it all seems.  The race gotcha games, the unbalanced media coverage, the denial of history.  I hope I live to see the America that Martin Luther King Jr. saw in his dreams.  And I hope I’m free to discuss it all, as loud as I want, in a free country.  But I’m not holding my breath.

 

This moral comparison is just disgusting.  There are millions of Black people in America who detest what Wright said.

To cite historical segregation as a justification to profit off of pure hatred for America, Whites, and Jews is just plain wrong.  In fact, it places these people in a state of perpetual victimhood and is more destructive than any racial prejudice than they could experience today.

There are no excuses for letting your children who were born post 1980s to hear this crap on Sundays; that goes to Barack Obama's judgment.

In terms of "Pastors on the Right."  They will have little or no daily access to McCain.  They are not his lifelong pastor.  His children don't attend their sermons.  They did not write the tittle to his book.  There is no comparison.

Lastly, to suggest that I am engaged in McCarthyism by saying that Wright is Anti-American demonstrates the total brainwashing that is being done on today's American Universities.  Did you listen to what Wright said?

Wright Hates America, he hates the country. he hates white people, he hates jews (not just anti-israel - he actually hates jewish people).  He compared America to Al Qaeda.  This is Anti-American in every sense of the word, and if you liberals do not see it, there is no hope for you.

To hold ones own country accountable is the mark of a true patriot, would that there were more vocal in Germany the Holocaust might have been avoided.  Although the leaders lead they do so at the will of the people and thus the people are accountable for the actions of their country, in a free society.

We get the America we allow

To equate America to the Nazis is another horrible comparison.  Your are digging yourself into this argument.  Read above and then repeat.

He didn't equate the two. Methinks you feign outrage to avoid seeing his point.

Besides, you WANT Wright and therefore Obama to be anti-american, so your ability to see another point is dulled.

Temple,

He did too  equate the U.S. to Nazi  Germany  even if he doesn't admit  it.

You are making suppositions regarding motives that are not fact based. 

Try again AA, reread and comprehend

Start with motive

That wasn't the point, but you knew that

And as always COPIOUS....... You still seem to have no real brain power to create an argument that makes any real sense!

You appearantly are only willing to see the world through the eyes of a white man and are simply unwilling to see through the eyes of an entire segment of our society that until recently have had any real power to do anything for themselves without the white man putting him down.

Are there blacks that detest what Wright has said?....... yes..... but I would argue that many of them were likely never taught the true history of how there ancestry was treated or the real meaning of MLK's words..... the other blacks that detest Wrights words...... either work at FOX Noise or have sold out there fellow black men and women for nothing more than $$ or hold a seat in the Supreme Court.....

To equate even the most critical of criticisms of government with hatred of America and white people is not just disgusting it also shows EXACTLY the kind of conformity junkie predilictions of the people of Nazi Germany in the thirties. Which of course is not SAYING America is like Nazi Germany but then again you are so simpleminded that this logical fallacy probably makes sense to you.

CopiusCompliance whines that Wright criticises the government then stupidly accuses Wright of hating America and White people. Copious is a LIAR AND A FOOL. Cough up some quotes that show hatred for either America OR White people. NOT criticisms of GOVERNMENT which is NOT America nor white people or admit you are a liar and show yourself out in the disgrace you so richly deserve. All you ever do is propagate hivemind propaganda that only the most simpleminded could POSSIBLY take seriously.

Plus copious thinks that Wright will be on Obama's Fave Five list at the White House.

Let's see, wasn't that Colorado guy Haggard talking weekly to our fearless leader?  Now he was a real moral, upstanding citizen, wasn't he copious?  Doing meth and getting serviced by a male prositute while talking to the president of the United States. 

Solon,

The quotes and the videos are out there for everyone to see. To say they don't exist is laughable.

Wright says the country is run by rich, white people and then goes on to blame the country's ruling class for any number of evils thereby promoting hate against whites.  

Is America perfect, no. Is saying GD America repeatedly from the pulpit hate speech?  Yes.  

It is evident to all except those who refuse to see.  

"Is America perfect, no. Is saying GD America repeatedly from the pulpit hate speech?  Yes."

AA, he said that once.

And his words were not racist.  Did he base his words on stereotypes?  No.  Did he say that whites were inferior? No.

But of course, it's your right to view these words through the prism of racism, however wrong that may be. 

This moral comparison is just disgusting.  There are millions of Black people in America who detest what Wright said.

And there are lots of people here at MMFA who detest every stupid thing you post here, Copious Ignorance.

"In terms of "Pastors on the Right."  They will have little or no daily access to McCain." 

Really...? And exactly how do you know this? An influential group of right wing evangelical pastors has long claimed to have at least weekly access to George W. Bush...and they are not his church pastors. 

Wright Hates America, he hates the country. he hates white people, he hates jews (not just anti-israel - he actually hates jewish people).  He compared America to Al Qaeda.  This is Anti-American in every sense of the word, and if you liberals do not see it, there is no hope for you.

Copious - judging by your posts here, you hate truth, you hate facts, you hate liberals.  Your rants here on MMFA are as anti-American as anything you accuse Rev. Wright of, because you're misusing your Freedom of Speech to spread lies.  And as long as YOU fail to see THAT, there is no hope for YOU.

Besides dissentry

This is about McTorture not understanding that Iraqis come in many shapes, sizes and faiths.  If Obama or Clinton made the same mistake it would be looped ad naseum all over the so called Liberal media.

I never thought I'd say this, but I miss CompliantConsent's incoherent 10 words and a cloud of dust cut & run bombs.

What an embarrassing load of paranoid crap.& not even original crap.

What an embarrassing load of paranoid crap.& not even original crap.

So sad - all Copious Plagiarism can do is re-crap other people's crap....

CD also is right on the ball. I went to his silly blogspot, and he has the photo of Bill Clinton shaking hands with Rev. Wright.I also found these words on his bog(edited for brevity); 

"..My fantasy is to go on some mainstream talk show...Watching Chris Matthews orgasm in his pants"

Oh my, what a wonderful fantasy...I know we've all day-dreamed about Chris Matthews and how his "Ha!" entices all of us, arousing our sexual fantasies.

*Retch* 

Boy,that spin has really worked.I thought we were going to discuss McCains gaffes,but we still or should I say some people are still carrying Reverend Wright into this conversation.

If Barack or Hillary for that matter had said the same thing let alone being in Iraq saying that,Man the loops would be running as I am typing this.

A.  I provided context for what he said

B. The first amendment protects his right to say it

There is not argument to be made here other than why the MSM is ignoring the complexities of this story, it is gross incompetence

As for McTorture I think that story could use some detail as well, lets roll a loop of all the GOPers congflating Al Qaeda with Iraqis and not understanding the difference between a Sunni, a Shite and a Kurd.  I bet that would make a great tape that explains where we are now in Iraq and the type of thinking and lack thereof that got us there

Sadly, I believe posts like CD's ignorant tripe are necessary in this new discussion of race in the 21st century.  It is necessary, in the course of major change, that the voices of the ignorant come to the forefront before any actual change can occur.

I agree, DB. While a small group of Foxfans is transfixed and terrified by Rev. Wrights comments, I don't find them nearly as interesting as the reaction by the ignorant and gullible crybabys like CD.

I could do without Copious' detailed Chris Matthews fantasies, though.

Dbeden posted:

"It is necessary, in the course of major change, that the voices of the ignorant come to the forefront before any actual change can occur."

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OK, I can agree with that, but that begs the question...

How will Wright's inflammatory remarks spark any Change? 

By sparking frank discussion, for starters Hog

Exactly.  Major change always begins when someone says something controversial, yet true.