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PolitiFact knows McCain's Iran statement is "[f]alse" -- but doesn't want to "pile on"

Summary: In noting Sen. John McCain's false statement that "[i]t's common knowledge and has been reported in the media that Al Qaeda is going back into Iran and is receiving training and are coming back into Iraq from Iran," PolitiFact.com asserted: "We're not trying to pile on to Sen. John McCain over his misstatement on the link between Iran and al-Qaida. Maybe he was confused just for a moment. He did correct himself quickly." PolitiFact did not mention that McCain made the same error twice, and that he had made it the previous day.
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Posted by dexteritas0071418

MMfA takes issue again with not rubbing salt in a Repub's wounds. The article noted the statement he made was false.

Posted by BottleBlonde in reply to dexteritas0071418

Media Matters has an issue with every media source that distorts the facts.

It has nothing to do with rubbing salt in anyone's wounds.

Posted by RoberttheP in reply to dexteritas0071418

Was it false or is that really what McCain thinks? with mccain we get more of Bush even worse I feel.

Posted by BillJ-MN in reply to RoberttheP

When the same "mistake" is made three separate times over different days and speeches it's hard to believe that he simply misspoke.

I think it's very reasonable to believe that he had to be corrected on the facts, not just his presentation.

Posted by clewill in reply to BillJ-MN

He did not misspeak! That was the "Straight Talk Express"

Posted by mescal in reply to clewill

I suppose we could call it the STRAIGHT MISSPEAKING EXPRESS from here on.

Posted by wzwriter

"We're not trying to pile on to Sen. John McCain over his misstatement on the link between Iran and al-Qaida. Maybe he was confused just for a moment. He did correct himself quickly."

Would they be that forgiving if it was Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama who said that?

Posted by dexteritas0071418 in reply to wzwriter

Would MMfA have a problem with it if the press weren't as forgiving?

Posted by arglebargle in reply to dexteritas0071418

It's about the double standard, not about "rubbing salt." If Obama or Clinton had made these statements, we'd hear about it 24/7.

Posted by anotheramerican in reply to arglebargle

Argle,

This is the third day in a row we've seen MMFA regurgitate McCain's misstatement.  Looks like 24/7 to me so far. :-)  

Posted by HughG in reply to anotheramerican

That's because this is the third day in a row that the Mainstream Media has excused his misstatement as a "slip," while ignoring the fact that he made that "slip" enough times so that he obviously meant to say it.

If the MSM ignored it, or if they told the truth, MMfA would have to look elsewhere for conservative disinfo. 

Posted by Dem02020

 

If you're at "war" with someone, it isn't really important that you know who they are, or where they're from, is it?

I mean, forty years ago, people used to confuse the Viet Cong with King Kong, but nobody really cared, because it wasn't really important...

And during WWII, people routinely "mispoke", and referred to the nazis as those danged Norwegians, and also said about Pearl Harbor "we'll pay those Chinese back for that, by golly!"

 

I mean, just how important is it, to know who you're at "war" with, or where they're from... it's a heck of a lot easier to just figure every foreigner is the "enemy", and leave it at that.

 

 

Posted by dexteritas0071418 in reply to Dem02020

Thanks for your hearsay evidence for the point you're trying to make.

Posted by edenscape246494 in reply to dexteritas0071418

DEX

Take a look at how this war has unfolded

A basic historical knowledge of the region they were about to invade was as close as The Google, there was and is no excuse for them not understanding that removing the albeit ruthless linchpin in Iraq an ages old Civil war would be uncorked.

Republicans have conflated the terrorists with the insurgents to the point now that McCain is either being willfully ignorant or intellectually dishonest

Or old, you pick

Posted by arglebargle in reply to edenscape246494

Just to be charitable, I pick "old." More senior moments to come, I imagine.

Posted by dexteritas0071418 in reply to arglebargle

I love how ageism is "a-ok" with the same folks that scream and cry racist and bigot with a distrubing ease.

Posted by Kyle_Broflovski in reply to dexteritas0071418

Ageism, huh?  Well, people of different ages have different abilities, both physically and mentally, so why isn't ageism OK?  Or do you really want Cindy McCain running the country in a few years?

Posted by dexteritas0071418 in reply to Kyle_Broflovski

And black athletes can, on average, run faster than white athletes. So, I'm pretty sure Obama can run fast because he's black.

Posted by Kyle_Broflovski in reply to dexteritas0071418

Correct - that is why you don't see the NBA being sued for discriminating against whites.  They're judging them by their talent.

We are judging McCain by his competency and willpower.  They have been fading quickly over the past 5-6 years, so maybe it is appropriate to suggest he is suffering from Alzheimer's disease.  We may never know, since he won't release his medical records.

About a month ago, McCain voted against an anti-waterboarding bill in the Senate.  I can only deduce 2 explanations:

1 - He is posing as a hard-line right winger to shore up conservative votes (i.e. selling out his beliefs)

2 - He merely forgot that, as a victim of torture, he has opposed the practice for his entire political career, up to this February

Posted by solon in reply to dexteritas0071418

Oh my goodness. Is your back hurting trying to limbo your obliviousness past seeing the point being made and moving the goalposts so you dont have to answer it?  Ageism? I hope that was a joke instead of an incredibly weak dodge. McCain made this supposed slip several times. It WASNT a slip of the tongue. If his strong suit is he is a warrior it certainly makes a difference if he is a warrior without a CLUE what is going on.

Posted by dexteritas0071418 in reply to edenscape246494

EDEN~

Clearly the conflict in Iraq was ill-conceived. What does that have to do with all that other stuff Dem said that had nothing to do with Iraq?

Posted by edenscape246494 in reply to dexteritas0071418

Gimme a specific and I'd be happy to retort

Posted by edenscape246494

Sunni? Shite?  whatever, I thought they was all A-rabs

Sun Tzu would be mortified were he still with us

Posted by edenscape246494 in reply to edenscape246494

Pile on ?

Like make a loop of worst ofs and play it nightly ad naseum ?

Wright, it's OKIYAR, how could I forget...must be getting senile

Posted by wzwriter in reply to edenscape246494

Sunni? Shite?  whatever, I thought they was all A-rabs

Most of teh chickenhaws who started this illegal war don't know Shite from Shinola.

Posted by Col. Harlan Sanders in reply to edenscape246494

Have a vague passing acquaintance with your enemy, or a suitable facsimile.

Posted by mr. l in reply to Col. Harlan Sanders

...and just to be practical, make a building the size of Vermont that makes your presense incospicuous, insulate yourself in it with 2000 other people who also have no idea what's going on outside, and wave your hands in the air and make policy decisions like you just don't care... 
Edenscape, my post was supposed to be in response to your Sun Tzu comment, in a "know your enemy" vein. It showed up later as a weird lonely thing.

Posted by nerzog

It gets worse. I heard some GOP apologist on the radio last night saying that McCain didn't misspeak after all. He claimed that Iran is, indeed training and arming Al Qaeda. I expect this new talking point to pop up like weeds over the next few days.

It will be fun to watch how they square that with all the Republicants who have called it a slip. Being the accomplished liars that they are, I think they'll at least give it a try.

Posted by dexteritas0071418 in reply to nerzog

Nerz, I love it when someone talking head here or there tries to say "No, there really was/is WMD!" or some other thing like that. You think "Hey guy, if that were really the case, don't you think the guy who said it and all his supporters would have brought it up by now?"

Posted by nerzog in reply to dexteritas0071418

Exactly. My favorite was when Sean Hannity and Rick Santorum stated emphatically "Yes, the WMD's were found" right before Santorum lost his seat.

On a side note, Glenn Beck cited Santorum as the only politician who embodied all the values he considers important. Glenn is stupider than I thought.

Posted by solon in reply to dexteritas0071418

Exactly and the Bush administration would not only give a national speech and press conference he would personally be tossing fliers off the top of the Washington monument.