McCain, as a former POW, had to build bridges for the North Vietnamese without any financial options.

 

(Sorry, I can't figure out any for the beauty pageant winner...)

Da, that's how she was going to pay for it. A combination of fundraisers by doing beauty pagents in Oompa loompa and higher taxes on igloos.

perhaps the 2 of them can build a bridge to reality. Somehow, I doubt it though.

palin never said the words that either mccain or graham attribute to her.  she said it was not going to be built, but only because they did not get the federal funding.  otherwise, she was for it.

It is interesting to see the Republicans fabricate this wonderful new garment for the empress to wear.

This person's resume is incredibly thin - even without all of the made-up stuff.

i really think they just rushed into this to go after the religious and women's vote.  it's hard to believe they put any time into vetting her.  if they had, reports would have started to come up in the press that she was being considered.   there are a lot of unknowns with her, and the known is not too encouraging.  hard to believe that they couldn't come up with a better woman candidate.  

Palin is a maverick. She's for change, don't you know.

McCain had tried to paint himself as a maverick, and Obama had done a good job of debunking that claim and taking command of the change mantra. McCain's hoping to yank back ownership of the title of "the best candidate to introduce change into DC" by having Palin as his VP.

They have to portray her as a person who says that she (and her state) can be independent of federal govt largesse, so they have to distort what actually happened in order to do that.

She did strike the fatal blow to the bridge project. She did take it off their list of potential projects, and she did that because her state knew that it wasn't an important enough project for them to shoulder the entire burden to build.

If it were really that important, they'd pay for it themselves. The cost/benefit isn't there, though. It'd be nice to have greater access, to help develop that island and give the nearby residents more room to grow, and it would help commerce by speeding the transit time for goods from the airport, but those benefits aren't great enough.

And that's why it never should have been on the table as an earmark. It wasn't important enough. Money to help with projects like this is finite, but Senator Ted Stevens and Congressman Don Young were powerful enough that they kept it on the table despite the weak justification for the bridge.

And Palin fully supported it, and fully supported her Congressional delegation continuing to provide her state with earmarks.

So, although she did strike the fatal blow for this bill, what Dems have to do is explain in a little more detail that while there was still a hope of getting federal funding for the bridge, she was all for the bridge, and when there wasn't a chance for the bridge to get pork barrel money, she declined to continue to support it.

I call BS.  Palin said it HERSELF:

"I told Congress, thanks but no thanks on that bridge to nowhere," Palin told the cheering McCain crowd, referring to Ketchikan's Gravina Island bridge.

But Palin was for the Bridge to Nowhere before she was against it.

The Alaska governor campaigned in 2006 on a build-the-bridge platform, telling Ketchikan residents she felt their pain when politicians called them "nowhere." They're still feeling pain today in Ketchikan, over Palin's subsequent decision to use the bridge funds for other projects -- and over the timing of her announcement, which they say came in a pre-dawn press release that seemed aimed at national news deadlines.

"I think that's when the campaign for national office began," said Ketchikan Mayor Bob Weinstein on Saturday.

dude, they just make stuff up. it's not even like they TRY to fake it. it's so bad...it's like "hey, look here what i just pulled out of my backside!" and they get to say to the whole nation. scum.

No one is challenging anything that McCain says....this new McCain ad has been on our local pop radio station at least 3 times an hour. It couldn't be more wrong, or outrageous.

Script For "Millions" (Radio :60)

ANNCR: Celebrities like to spend their millions. Barack Obama is no different. Only it's your money he wants to spend.

Obama's got plans -- big plans -- for your money.

Eight hundred sixty three billion in new government programs -- a 23 percent increase in the size of government.

Massive spending. That will lead to even higher budget deficits.

Piling more debt on the backs of your children and grandchildren.

Even Obama's hometown newspaper, The Chicago Tribune, says Obama has "no interest in eliminating deficit spending".

They're right. So no wonder Obama wants to raise taxes on your income, your electric bills, even your life savings.

Ready to tax. Ready to spend. Not ready to lead.

That's the real Obama.

JOHN MCCAIN: I'm John McCain and I approved this message.

ANNCR: Paid for by John McCain 2008.

Posted at 09:30 AM

 

 

How long before the first right-wing liar replies to you with a comment along the lines of "Sounds about right to me."?

He's busy on the first thread of today. His multi tasking skills aren't that great, so y'all will have to be patient that he gets tired of losing arguments on that thread long before he gets tired of spouting his limbo fed lines.

Is that Mr. "My computer is stuck on caps, and I can't figure out how to fix it?  that has been writing all the high brow right wing stuff on the other threads? ;-)

Bill,

Apparently not as fast as it takes someone on the left takes to hurl the standard, name calling insults.  :-) 

 

As of right now I haven't insulted anyone.  Well, maybe a hypothetical right-winger, but if no one makes the stupid comment I suggested, no one is insulted.

You're being pretty hyper-sensitive, aren't you?  Did I preempt a mindless comment that you had wanted to make?

I bet that he's just irked that his job as a paid poster here doesn't offer paid holidays, so if he didn't show up and post something today, he doesn't get paid.

I find this GOP tactic to be insincere. It's little more than an argument strategy the righties use to extinguish the fire in the bellies of liberals. GOPers call any strong language insulting, even when it isn't, especially when it isn't. And it generally works with liberals as so many of us truly are so concerned with civil discourse that we avoid telling it like it is with persuasive passion because we don't want to turn off listeners. But righties know how to persuade. They don't care about being insulting, they'll make strident emotional appeals without batting an eye.

It just makes me sick that we let theses guys get away with this stuff because we're too concerned with not offending the delicate sensibilities of members of the party of Rove and Cheney, Hannity and O'Reilly.

Hey, Roundhouse. I posted a comment in response to yours,re: the selectively-sensitive hothouse flowers.

I guess it was so hurtful it was flagged.

It must have really hit a nerve, but alas, I missed it. I'm a responsible liberal, I was at work.

Post it again. I'd be willing to bet that after exposing himself again , AA has run away and won't be around to tattle.

Bill,

I just thought you were above blanket name calling.  I guess I was wrong.

I guess I was wrong.

Don't guess, be certain. Why should this topic be different from any other? You're wrong about them, too.

LOOK, plastic Barbie now talks! Just pull her string and listen to what she says: 

Asked about Palin's national security experience, Cindy McCain could not come up with anything beyond the fact that, after all, her state is right next to Russia. "You know, the experience that she comes from is, what she has done in government -- and remember that Alaska is the closest part of our continent to Russia."

Oh no, plastic Barbie's string broke: 

She added that Palin has "way more experience than...." but Stephanopoulos cut her off before she could say, for example, "Barack Obama" or maybe "others give her credit for."

Cindy McCain could not come up with anything beyond the fact that, after all, her state is right next to Russia.

I live across the street from a Jewish family, and there's a Latin-American family up the street. Does that mean I'm qualified to be Secretary of State?

My recollection is not that Alaska turned down the funding but the Senate took it out of the bill. The $400 Million for the bridge was not kept by the taxpayers but rather went to an Alaska general fund for any project they wanted. This was. in part, in response to Ted Stevens statement that he would resign if the money did not go through.

The following supports my statement above. In addition there are several news stories on Stevens' threat to resign.

 

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/08/30/secret.senators/

You are correct, sir: From PolitiFact.com:

When Palin says "I told Congress, 'Thanks, but no thanks,' on that bridge to nowhere," it implies Congress said, "Here's a check for that bridge" and she responded, "No thanks, that's wasteful spending; here's your money back."

That's not what happened. Fact is, Alaska took the bridge money, and then just spent it on other projects.

Good catch.  I was just reading about that over on the Daily Howler. The 'Bridge to Nowhere' was cancelled before  Palin even took office.  AK did get the money though.  So much for her if-we-need-a-bridge-we'll-pay-for-it-ourselves claim.

going to come my way. I can't imagine being the governor of the state and telling the people who were able to secure the bridge, "We're not going to do it." Graham.  Since the state got the money anyway for projects of their choice who was upset?  Graham is such a liar, just like the lie McCain told that he has been following Palin for years but she has only been Gov. for 20 months. Lara Bush taking Steve Doocy talking points she has foreign policy experience because Alaska is located close to Russia.  WHATEVER BECAME OF THE WAR ON "TERROR" ! Please tell me why is McCain and Palin in Mississippi with all their staff and all their security and press and cameras during this hurricane ?  Talk about photo-ops and exploitating misery!!  But you know the MSM will not call them on any of this in a consistent way.  What we are seeing by McCain is an attempt to re-write the script and the MSM will for the most part will  go along with it.  I read somewhere that the play book reads like this : When the Republicans attack repeat the attack over and over again when the Democrats attack , attack the Democrats.  Already I've heard pundits like Howard Kurtz allege that some of the Dems and media criticism of Palin is sexist.  How Biden has to be carfeful how he approaches her during their debate, and yadda yadda yadda! Their gonna try and insulate her as best they can, and reporters love their McCain and are eager to swallow any slop their given.  Snoopy posted a photo of her that looked pretty provative to me, i bet there is more.  I also think that the investigation of her allege abuse of powers will expose more about her than the Republicans can explain away.  Anyway thats what I think. 

She has executive experience because all those years she served as mayor : 

--Josh Marshall  

What is an Illa and how is it washed?

"Wasilla" is Alaskan for "New Illa".

what if they made vans there?

what if they made vans there?

I guess they could branch out into ice cream then. Word is some of Palins friends wanted to change it to Godsilla,but while it did honor our nation's religious foundation, it seemed to simultaneously salute the giant Japanese dinosaur that Jesus Christ defeated in the book of Mothra (16:12)

Game (L) on!

Here is more about Palin from the Huffington Post :http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/08/31/palins-abuse-of-power-wor_n_122783.html

This will assure us that we have nothing to fear.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/greg-mitchell/cindy-mccain-on-abc-today_b_122759.html

The media is latching on to Palin.  They love it.  Although they have questions about her they are allowing them all to be answered by the McCain campaign.  This is a really bad sign.